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Tuesday, February 28, 2012

The Enigma Մաս ~ ն տեխնոլոգիայով կապի մեր մշակույթին, ծառայել է լուսավորել մեզ օգնում են մեզ հասկանալ միմյանց ավելի լավ է, կամ էլ նրանք խաբում են մեզ


ספרטקוס יכול להישמע כמו סיורים חסר הבית.מפציץ צלילה Stuka ישרוף. האח הגדול צופה לך חברים ואתה יכול לנשק לשלום bluesky שלך. צלבים הלטינית, פטיש ומגלים, שלטים דולר, כוכבים ו סהרונים, מגיני דוד כל יופיע מאי ראשון אלפיים שנים עשר ו Strat שחור יהיה מכוסה באבק. על שרוול gatefold של המהדורה המקורית של אלבום של פינק פלויד 1969 Ummagumma היה מי? החתימה שלה נמצא בתוך מעגל פשוט אמר JT הייתי צריך לשקול קריירה בהנדסת מכונות? Blackhill Enterprises היה שיתוף פעולה של המתים סטיב הביא לנו Maker הלחן החדש שלנו. זה יהיה המסר האחרון אתה מוצא כאן, אתה חייב להסתכל, לצפות ולתקשר תוך טבילה כדי לפתור את החידה.

20 comments:

  1. where are you getting things from? so I can find out more? [I don't bother with rogerwaters.com anymore because of the arseholes there]

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    1. not you sky, those that were calling for the bombing of another country, clearly not paying attention to Roger's work this past 30 years & the one spoiling it for everyone

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  2. What you need to find is right here and in Immersion

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  3. Very intriguing... Looked for the first clue as a joke at first but now this has gone much too far to stop here. Hope to see the answers soon, you're ruining my upcoming student exams =P

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  4. The Enigma ~ Part of the technology in our culture, serve to enlighten us, help us tounderstand each other better, or they are

    Spartacus can sound like a homeless tours. Stuka dive bomber burn. Big Brotherwatching you friends and you can kiss goodbye to your bluesky. Latin crosses,hammer and sickles, dollar signs, stars and crescents, stars of David all firstappear in May two thousand and twelve black Strat will be covered in dust.Gatefold sleeve of the original release of Pink Floyd's album Ummagumma 1969was who? Her signature is in the circle just said JT would have to consider a career in mechanical engineering? Blackhill Enterprises was a collaboration of the dead Steve brought us our new melody maker. This will be the last message you find here, you have to, watch and interact with a dip to solve the puzzle.

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  6. The first lines are in armenia and rest of the text is in hebrew.

    The picture with the pig and the rooster maybe irrelevant (pretty picture anyway, I like piglets :D) or maybe it has something to with the Wall and Animals concept. After all, Roger is highly influenced with Orwell's Animal Farm and 1984 (great books, you should read them). There are Orwellian referances and elements all over in his production.

    The armenian bit worries me a little bit though. It states that technology helps us to understand each other better, "or they are-". Does this mean that trying to translate these things with technology is useless and deceiving? Would make sense if the thoughts about breaking walls between people and languages are correct. Hope not, because I can't think of people whom might speak armenien or hebrew from the top of my head =). Guess I was lucky to understand Finnish which caught my eye in the first place.

    In the main part first signs are from The Wall live performance, then David's Strat will covered in dust. More signs of possible reunion (dust comes from end of the show when the wall collapses)? Or sign of the final performance when the Strato will have it's "final" rest and will be left in dust? Makes sense with the previous 1st of May thing.

    Then the gatefold sleeve of Ummagumma. Was who? Storm Thorgerson or Hipgnosis? Or someone else in the cover whose signature should be there possibly in a circle OR from Finnish translation whose signature IS the cirle. Wouldn't it be kind of frightening if that would be a pentagram? In some speculations the back cover of Ummagumma is pentagram with Lucifer (Sam) himself in it (talking 'bout reversed Stairway to heaven eh?). Is this dedicated to someone not so pleasant person? Hope not, that would go too far fetched =P. Don't know what JT stands for but didn't Mr. Waters thought about a career in mechanical engineering in some phase?

    Another piece of riddle comes forward with Blackhill Enterprises and dead Steve. I presume Blackhill means PF's early management in Syd's era. Afterwards when Syd had been left outside and Blackhill leaving Pink Floyd to follow him dead Steve would be Floyd's new manager Steve O'Rourke. Not sure what the new melody maker is. Is it some equipment or a person? Or perhaps it means the old Brittish music newspaper?

    The whole thing maybe just games and lures for us weak and paranoid people but I hope that the one thing that pulls the first 2 posts together is possible reunion. It would be a shame if these two gentlemen would have unresolved issues for rest of their lives, after all they went through together..

    Seems like this is the last clue from here, guess this has something to with Immersion but I don't have time to look into it now. If this is just a marketing scam (which is a part of this of course) to buy Immersion I will be very sad little boy :(. I hope there is something more in this. There are tons of useless bits there but someone propably will find the relevant points sooner or later. Again, somewhat long, possibly utterly pointless and rambling post, but hopefully it has something to do with this thing. :) Okay lads, good luck and carry on!

    Ps. If I had put even 20% of this work into my studies, I would have been a lawyer long time ago :)

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  7. It's way too hard for me, I'll wait for the simple english translation, but hey, great fun idea though :)))

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  8. Yeah, it's hard to interpret the text as there are many possible translations and they all seem to be very poorly constructed. In example "Her signature is in the circle just said JT would have to consider a career in mechanical engineering" means that JT told that the riddle's speaker should consider engineering. Also "watch and interact with a dip" means actually interact with Immersion. There are many vital parts hidden behind translation problems.

    You should also check out Roger Waters' forum, there is a topic discussing about this and many interesting points has came up there. For example JT might be Judith Trim, melody maker might be David Gilmour, and "the Stratocaster dust" could mean actually quite the contrary as I interpreted at first.

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  9. thanks, now just to get an immersion :/

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  10. Made any progress? Some work has been done in our front. To quote my last post from Roger's forum/my blog:

    The option that Roger is making and end for one era and simultaneously making room for other one could make sense. Story that one phase is completed and time for another one has arrived. I mean there probably is some sort of hidden message in the riddle so that it wouldn't be just a game. If it's some sort of message about the future then what does it tell us? Is he going to reveal something big and new on 1st of May? Hopefully not putting end to the speculations if he's going to continue performing or something like that. I mean if according to riddle:

    1. first there are signs of The Wall (starts to tell the story)
    2. then the date reference when something is going to happen (mystery revealed, story unravels itself)
    3. many things pointing to the past (dust, JT, engineering, Blackhill Enterprises, how everything has led to this point and must be left behind)
    4. Roger's way to say goodbye cruel world, end of story... The Wall that has been built during the first three phases collapses and the past must be left behind

    Conclusion: tour stops here and he won't be performing anymore or previous works are behind and time for new ones?
    After all he has got a lot to say and touring could have given him a new inspiration.

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  11. hopefully a new album :) something to show the global awakening to the reality of our situation, of slaves that we were but no longer remain... a conclusion to the "stone" that turned into bricks, in the wall... so much left to say, for the enlightenment, of oneness or whole

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  12. Might be.. I recently looked back to the first 2 clues and noticed that John Harris's book could be "The Dark Side of the Moon: The Making of the Pink Floyd Masterpiece". It refers to Publius Enigma at least in cover. Looking back to all clues it really seems that it was nothing more than a commercial charade. In conclusion seems to me like Roger is telling us that nothing is what it looks like at first. "You're deceived" and all the references to the misinformation. Is this a warning for us to avoid being deceived? For example in a form of translation mistakes and in general to filter all the information that comes from the media and for instance from the government. Manipulation and propaganda are everywhere all the time and that is one of the main themes in his works. Would fit in remembering that he has recently been talking about the media monopolies. Nice coincidence(?) with the recent Falklands incident by the way.

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  13. then there's "synchronicity" - for all things, even though we may not be even aware of them - DSotM is when everything changed & they then began to tell us things, we have hindsight [second sight/amazing powers of observation] so can look to the albums from that one to the wall to see what ties in with things like division bell/enigma publius [feedback loops etc]... or that could be just reading too much into it all

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  14. We have hopefully made (again) some process in Roger Waters Forum. It seems like we have found up some kind of solution in every part of the riddle and the results may be amazing.. Looks like the enigma has unraveled itself soon! If you want to come check in and make your own suggestion!

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  15. There are some hopeful theories (guesses?) that this could after all mean some kind of reunion. To quote from the forum: Pompeii is highly referenced ("Spartacus can sound like Missing tours Home" Vesuvius/Pompeii), whisper before One of these days (enigma whispered in Pompeii). Some kind of enigma made by the whole band started there. Also David and the "real Pink Floyd" is mentioned (you have seen the Wall and seen it fall down, Live 8? "How can you have pudding if you don't eat meat?", David and Nick? Uncle Custard has said "the bell has tolled and the surrogate band is coming back to life".) The Uncle Custard part "Uncle Custard wasn't anything else than Nicks Apple Pie No Crust and you're deceived" could mean that it actually was real. To quote directly YellowRose: "If you think this reference is nothing other than a reference to Nicks Apple Pie you're wrong."

    The Stratocaster dust would be in this case that it gets picked up again or it will gather dust after this, leaving it as a final show in these circles. So the forums' latest consensus claims that the whole enigma thing has been created by the whole band long time ago as a final reunion agreement. John Harris' book remark points out that the old times has something to do with the enigma (old agreement/band). 1st of May is something going to happen. First signs of The Wall and for the last "stars of david first appears in may 2012". First sings/announcement about this. "You have to watch and interact with Immersion" is about breaking walls and fighting alienation. Made by the "real PF". Makes sense also. The recurring number 11 in Publius Enigma ties together many things including Live 8 reunion and it has been 11 years since Judy Trim died, which brings her to enigma? She might also have something to do with Pompeii (remarks of engineering). Thanks to YellowRose's contribution this theory has been made, just wanted to tell some thoughts that we've had in the forums.

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  16. I'm thinking there may be a final performance by the three remaining band members possibly in Pompeii. I also think the announcement on May 1st will be that this will be the final tour of previous music by Pink Floyd & previous solo works with an announcement of a new solo album & possible tour to come after 'The Wall Live' tour is completed. Not so sure about the tour part. (I've been involved with the forum/s Enigma solving & have written quite a bit in them before coming to this conclusion)

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  17. I'm still uncertain about the clue in the Immersion box. So far what I've come up with is the song 'We'll Meet Again' by Vera Lynn. It's played at the start of the 'Live At Earls Court' CDs & also on the 'Works In Progress Part 1' CD. This has since changed to the Sparticus skit in the current 'The Wall Live' shows. I think the link here is: In Sparticus they all come to the conclusion that they are ALL Sparticus = They are all Pink (in Pink Floyd) & the song 'We'll Meet Again' = reunion with the band. Of course this may not even be the clue in the Immersion box but I'm yet to find another possible clue

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  18. The announcement on May 1st will be the next clue!!!

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